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Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby DeadRinger » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:59 pm

Man, I'm telling you guys, we should ditch Guenther, throw him right out on his fat ass and let him take his soft-ass schemes with him, and bring in Williams. Williams fields serious Ds.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby FreddieB25 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:36 pm

We should do alot of things. That fat ass Guenther is Gruden's boy anyway. Anyone we've had at DC for a long while now has been dog shit anyway.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby silver & black » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:18 pm

Not gonna happen. Gruden and Mayock both love him.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby FreddieB25 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:17 pm

And Mark loves Chuck the suck like a 12 yr old boy likes his Playboy mags. This clown better get us a winner or its all hype and a waste of time.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby silver & black » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:42 pm

I agree Freddie. Vegas... Gruden.... Mayock............fucking Carr... 3 or 4? first round picks.................I'm waiting. SHOW ME!
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby FreddieB25 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:03 pm

Exactly...SHOW ME!!! It's a results business.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby DeadRinger » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:33 am

That's my whole point. Williams has proven himself in this league, on a couple different teams.

We need to import winners. Williams fields hard-ass, aggressive defenses. Guenther fields defenses that gave up 31 pts per game this season.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby piratepride » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:12 pm

I wonder why Cleveland let him walk out the door?
I don't think his loud ass mouth would do anything but piss off the players and fan base. Yeah he's loud and screams his ass off at all the players, but after awhile it's just noise. The pattern with him is easy to recognize, one good year followed by mediocrity, then the team cuts ties and gets rid of him.
I'd rather give Guenther another year with some serious defensive help.
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby silver & black » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:21 pm

I'm sure Guenther is getting another year. Mayock and Gruden are enamored with him. I don't see it, but... I'm not on the inside. His defense was above average when he was in Cinsi. But.... he had talent there. We have no talent here. A couple of decent players, but no real talent. As a long ago poster on Teh ROC used to say...... time will tell (TWT).
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Re: Gregg Williams out in CLE

Postby DeadRinger » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:38 am

In Cincy, Guenther had a righteous D-line with Atkins, Peko and Dunlap. He had 4 1st round picks in his d-backfield before they let Nelson go. He had guys like Burfict at LB.

If you think about it, he SHOULD have been able to do more with a cast like that.

When was the last time we had a GOOD DC that we didn't want to let go of? Shit, I can't even think of one.
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