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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby Tenebrous » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:39 pm

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Del wrote:DR your spot on about Streater. My question is, where the fuck is Ford? Dude was straight up un coverable.


He just signed with the Jets. In regards to what happened to him in Oakland, it's the same answer - coaching. Ford, McFadden, etc., all had their best years when coached to their strengths. Thankfully, according to some, RM got rid of a coach that managed to get the best out of his players. Smh.


Man, its funny how you fucks forget Ford and McFadden were always injured every year they played for this team. How does coaching effect that? They had like 1 good year each. How long did it take for Fargas to have a good year? Should Kiffin be priased for bringing the best out of Fargas? GTFO here with that shit!

Any GM would have fired Hue for what Hue did to bring Palmer here. The raiders are barely recovering from that this year. That is how long it took


silver & black wrote:I have to agree with RAIDERS on this one. Yea, our coaching staff blows goats but, Those guys were ALWAYS injured. Coaching has nothing to do with that.


On the contrary, coaching has a lot to do with injuries. In the right system a player can excel; consistently misusing that same player will more than likely result in inevitable injures. For example, it is not by accident that McFadden was a beast, and not accident prone, in college where the team used him correctly. It is also not by accident that he had trouble staying healthy under Knapp's inflexible offense.

To state it differently, the fastest (manual) car in the world will never even go 50 mph if the owner cannot drive stick shift - indeed, the car will likely end up in the shop. Is the problem with the car or the driver?
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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby silver & black » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:31 am

C'mon... Ford was not used incorrectly. He was just always getting hurt. Dmac is a RB. It really shouldn't matter what "system" the guy is asked to play in. Injury prone is injury prone. I'll agree that he could be put in a better system to succeed on the field but, I don't buy that shit about getting h:urt because of " not being used right". That is just a convenient excuse for being hurt all time. These guys are football players, not ballerinas. Fuck the not uses of correctly excuses.
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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby 790thSFS » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:54 am

S/B nailed it on the Head! Good job man. Thanks for setting these fools straight
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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby Tenebrous » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:56 am

silver & black wrote:C'mon... Ford was not used incorrectly. He was just always getting hurt. Dmac is a RB. It really shouldn't matter what "system" the guy is asked to play in. Injury prone is injury prone. I'll agree that he could be put in a better system to succeed on the field but, I don't buy that shit about getting h:urt because of " not being used right". That is just a convenient excuse for being hurt all time. These guys are football players, not ballerinas. Fuck the not uses of correctly excuses.


"It shouldn't matter..." and that's it?! Well, people shouldn't go to bed hungry, but guess what - people do. What "should" and what "does" matter are two different things.

In the end, the system does matter. McFadden may hit hard, but he is not to be confused with Jerome Bettis, yet, outside of Jackson, they seemingly tried to pretend he was the freakin' bus.

Have you heard of thunder and lightening in the NFL? Where one RB brings the thunder and the other is the lightening?! What happens if you reverse the players? That is, put the bruising back in space and have the quick back try to move bodies. You get a mess and undoubtedly you would have injuries - yet, both players are RB's.

The key is to focus less on the title of the position and more on the player. To be effective and avoid injuries, players, yes, even RB's, must be used and coached properly.
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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby silver & black » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:00 am

We'll just agree to disagree on this one.
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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby RF34 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:30 am

Looking very much like Raiders dodged a bullet not signing DeSean Jackson

What started out looking like a lot of hearsay and misunderstanding with regard to DeSean Jackson's release from the Eagles last week is now looking a little more damning. Evidence is now stacking up that Jackson was not a pleasant guy to have around the team and not very well liked. Which is to say he was a royal pain in the ass.

The Raiders were one of the teams who reportedly were very interested in signing Jackson. And the fans were pushing hard to convince him he was wanted in Oakland with their #DJaxToOakland Twitter campaign. That movement seems now to fit squarely into the ‘be careful what you wish for' category.

Initially all the attention was begin focused on some alleged gang ties. Those accusations were flimsy at best and many NFL players and others understandably shooting it down. While talk of dodging that bullet was getting all the press, the real bullet was lingering - that he was a cancer.

In a recent article on CBS Philadelphia, several sources within the Eagles organization including current and former teammates of Jackson spoke of blatant insubordination, temper tantrums, and cussing out the head coach. They also made sure they were very clear that Jackson's release was for good the team and they were very much glad to see him gone.

"The fact is, [Jackson] was a ‘me-guy' with an attitude problem and [Jeremy Maclin] is the complete opposite, a team guy, a great character guy you go to war with," said one source. "Funny how [Jackson] has this anti-bully thing and he thought he could push [head coach Chip Kelly] around; he found out otherwise. His being cut had nothing to do with the gang stuff. The team knew it. Everyone knew he had ‘ties.' Those were his guys. That's okay. What put him out was his selfishness. He can try and spin it all he wants how he's ‘a team player.' He's not. I'll put it this way, when it came out last Friday that [Jackson] was released, more than a few guys were happy it happened. They said ‘good riddance.' He had no real connection with anyone.

"Yes, you can say he was the type that could catch three TDs in a loss-everyone would be down, but you had the impression he was happy, because he got his. It was all about him. A lot of guys thought that way about him. [Kelly] came in here with a plan to get this thing right, and the one major [obstacle] standing in his way was [Jackson]. If we were going to move forward as a team, he had to go. Think about it-did anyone come right out and back him publicly? Not one."

"You see little kids and how they cry and whine when they don't get their way, that was D-Jax," another source said. "I don't think [Jackson] gave [Kelly] the respect he deserved. Kelly tried to reach [Jackson] plenty of times and [Jackson] tuned him out. Then you look at team functions, when everyone is out together at charity things or social stuff. He was the one missing. It was like he was in ‘D-Jax world' and we just happened to be there.

"With [former head coach, Andy] Reid, [Jackson] tried pushing boundaries there, too, but he looked at Reid, I think, much differently than he looked at [Kelly]. Reid came in with an NFL pedigree. He was the guy that drafted [Jackson]. He was the one that called him on draft day and laid the law down right then: [Reid] wouldn't tolerate any outside interference from anyone. Now you get this college guy [Kelly] and he's not going to tell [Jackson] what to do. [Kelly] has a vision for this team-and he is a very old-school coach in a lot of ways. But there's only so much [a coach] can take."

"[Reid] thought he could control [Jackson]. He could, to a degree. Kelly put up with [Jackson] behind closed doors. A lot of guys didn't like how he talked to [Kelly]. And a lot of guys just didn't like him. They thought he was too into his rap label than he was about winning games. The guy performed, there's no questioning that. But you had to keep a constant eye on him. Guys put in extra time. He didn't. It's like he never grew up."

"It wasn't just [Kelly] that wanted him gone. [Kelly] got a lot of feedback from guys that felt we were better off without [Jackson], too. [Kelly] is very much a player's coach. His office is open to anyone. Now [Jackson] is the Redskins' problem. We have something good going here and it's going to get better without [Jackson]. He had to go."

To read the entire article, click http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/0 ... gk.twitter.

Let's be honest here, while this might be pretty shocking words, it isn't all that surprising.

Remember back in his rookie season in a game against the Cowboys he was prematurely began his touchdown celebration and dropped the ball before he crossed the goal line? Here's video of that to refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN9bDZ4ej_w#t=29

It was at that moment it occurred to many people that the first syllable of his first name sounds very much like a feminine hygiene product. This new testimony affirms that observation... with a bullet.

And with the Reggie McKenzie vision of team of high character players, that is one bullet they very much needed to dodge.
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Re: DeSean Jackson agrees to terms with Redskins

Postby silver & black » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:19 am

Like that is some kind of revelation?
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